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#1 onlyaladd

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:57 AM

It is a meat that isn't really in much demand 364 days a year. The white part is super dry and not tasty and the dark is slimy and not great.

I'll take a steak over it 10/10 times. Seafood is massively better. Hell even chicken is usually better.


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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:58 AM

It is a meat that isn't really in much demand 364 days a year. The white part is super dry and not tasty and the dark is slimy and not great.

I'll take a steak over it 10/10 times. Seafood is massively better. Hell even chicken is usually better.


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Sounds like you are the victim of bad turkey.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:03 AM

Sounds like you are the victim of bad turkey.

I guess so. But I have thought that for a long time. I have had "good" turkey before and it was good but still nothing like a good steak. Agree? Disagree?
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:12 AM

I guess so. But I have thought that for a long time. I have had "good" turkey before and it was good but still nothing like a good steak. Agree? Disagree?


I would take a good steak over the Cadillac of turkeys. That said wild turkey is absolutely yummy if prepared right. Hell a grocery store bird, if brined for a week in campaign and apple cider, is pretty tasty. Bad turkey is plentiful though, its very easy to overcook.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:16 AM

It is a meat that isn't really in much demand 364 days a year. The white part is super dry and not tasty and the dark is slimy and not great.

I'll take a steak over it 10/10 times. Seafood is massively better. Hell even chicken is usually better.


Discuss.


at the risk of being labeled racist, i prefer turkey, and the white meat rather than the dark meat. i could eat turkey everyday. when we grocery shop, i usually buy six pounds of cajun spiced turkey slices. it doesn't last long, so will have to up that to nine pounds.

not a big beef steak fan. will eat salmon steaks though.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:16 AM

It is a meat that isn't really in much demand 364 days a year. The white part is super dry and not tasty and the dark is slimy and not great.

I'll take a steak over it 10/10 times. Seafood is massively better. Hell even chicken is usually better.


Discuss.

Sounds like whoever is cooking your turkey can't cook. My turkey was delicious!! I brined it for 24 hours prior to cooking it, salt water, garlic and oregano. Then today, I made brought out the blender and liquefied rosemary, sage, thyme, and garlic and added melted butter and injected it all over the turkey. I cooked it at 325 until it hit 170 degrees, then flipped it, turned on the convection fan and crisped up the bottom. Flipped it back, crisped up the top. My girlfriend's mom made the gravy (because I have a hard time making gravy. That bird was tender, sweet, moist, and DELICIOUS!!! Sometimes I inject white wine, too.

If you want REALLY good turkey, deep fry it. It's a bit dangerous, if you are careless, but is awesome. I smoked ours last year.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:17 AM

I guess so. But I have thought that for a long time. I have had "good" turkey before and it was good but still nothing like a good steak. Agree? Disagree?


Im cutting my turkey with a fork.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:20 AM

at the risk of being labeled racist, i prefer turkey, and the white meat rather than the dark meat. i could eat turkey everyday. when we grocery shop, i usually buy six pounds of cajun spiced turkey slices. it doesn't last long, so will have to up that to nine pounds.

not a big beef steak fan. will eat salmon steaks though.

Salmon is really wonderful. Maybe the best food ever. I love almost all seafood.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:25 AM

Salmon is really wonderful. Maybe the best food ever. I love almost all seafood.

I'm the same way. I love seafood, but it's expensive, so I don't get it too often. Besides, I am the only one in my house that likes it.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:26 AM

Sounds like whoever is cooking your turkey can't cook. My turkey was delicious!! I brined it for 24 hours prior to cooking it, salt water, garlic and oregano. Then today, I made brought out the blender and liquefied rosemary, sage, thyme, and garlic and added melted butter and injected it all over the turkey. I cooked it at 325 until it hit 170 degrees, then flipped it, turned on the convection fan and crisped up the bottom. Flipped it back, crisped up the top. My girlfriend's mom made the gravy (because I have a hard time making gravy. That bird was tender, sweet, moist, and DELICIOUS!!! Sometimes I inject white wine, too.

If you want REALLY good turkey, deep fry it. It's a bit dangerous, if you are careless, but is awesome. I smoked ours last year.

God bless her heart. My aunt is a wonderful and brilliant woman but yeah that turkey wasn't great. But my point stands. I am personally a pretty talented cook and have hosted a few TGs. Even at its best the turkey was alright but the best TG was when I went with duck intead of turkey and it blew everyone away.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:27 AM

Salmon is really wonderful. Maybe the best food ever. I love almost all seafood.


i love sea food, but some of it is antagonistic, and i don't like the whole five minutes from being dead part. i know, call me silly
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:28 AM

Pheasant - hands down. Admit it. It pwns u.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:33 AM

I'm the same way. I love seafood, but it's expensive, so I don't get it too often. Besides, I am the only one in my house that likes it.

It's weird how some people don't like it. It does cost a bit but if you have it at least once a week your quality of life will improve imho. I'm a bit of a foodie I guess.

Pheasant - hands down. Admit it. It pwns u.

Haha. I guess. I like it more than dislike it but I just think there are better choices usually.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:37 AM

God bless her heart. My aunt is a wonderful and brilliant woman but yeah that turkey wasn't great. But my point stands. I am personally a pretty talented cook and have hosted a few TGs. Even at its best the turkey was alright but the best TG was when I went with duck intead of turkey and it blew everyone away.

I had duck once, from a Chinese food place. It was terrible. I haven't gotten the courage to try it again. Never had pheasant. If it is gamy, at all, I wouldn't like it.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:49 AM

If you want REALLY good turkey, deep fry it. It's a bit dangerous, if you are careless, but is awesome.


Learned this the hard way, do not brine a turkey you are planing to deep fry. Dropped it in and it looked like an IED hit the poor thing.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 02:53 AM

Learned this the hard way, do not brine a turkey you are planing to deep fry. Dropped it in and it looked like an IED hit the poor thing.

Yeah, water and 400 degree oil do NOT play well together.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 09:58 AM

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:55 AM

Whenever I get in the mood for turkey, I just take a walk out in the woods and pop one. Best time is not during hunting season. Also safer. .22 subsonic and a head pop. Quiet and humane. Then I haul the guy home, clean him up and brine for a day or so. Then it's on to the rotisserie. Sometimes I wrap on some bacon strips since wild turkey has little fat. Sometimes some lemon pepper.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:00 PM

I like turkey, but not too often. And yes, I will take a ribeye over turkey any day!

Duck sucks. All that dark stringy meat is gross. I adore seafood and I eat it pretty often. Pheasant is pretty good. It's all dark meat too like grouse. Gotta marinade the hell out of it. The backstrap of a young doe is to die for!
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:03 PM

Sounds like whoever is cooking your turkey can't cook. My turkey was delicious!! I brined it for 24 hours prior to cooking it, salt water, garlic and oregano. Then today, I made brought out the blender and liquefied rosemary, sage, thyme, and garlic and added melted butter and injected it all over the turkey. I cooked it at 325 until it hit 170 degrees, then flipped it, turned on the convection fan and crisped up the bottom. Flipped it back, crisped up the top. My girlfriend's mom made the gravy (because I have a hard time making gravy. That bird was tender, sweet, moist, and DELICIOUS!!! Sometimes I inject white wine, too.

My god, you're making my mouth water. That sounds incredible, and I'm stealing that idea for my Christmas goose.

If you want REALLY good turkey, deep fry it. It's a bit dangerous, if you are careless, but is awesome. I smoked ours last year.

I always tell people just to fry it in parts. More control over the white/dark and fewer massive explosions.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:09 PM

I had duck once, from a Chinese food place. It was terrible. I haven't gotten the courage to try it again. Never had pheasant. If it is gamy, at all, I wouldn't like it.

You mean, like a take-out place? Duck is always dry and overcooked at those places. A'll you have to do is the opposite of your turkey brilliance. Turkey tends to be dry - so your brining and injecting are perfect solutions for that. Duck tends to be oily, so you don't brine, you cook long and low, to let the fat render, or you can even simmer it gently for 15 minutes to do the same, then dry it thoroughly, prick the skin all over with a fork and roast to crisp it.

LOL - I had to evade the filter to post "prick". LOLOL.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:10 PM

You mean, like a take-out place? Duck is always dry and overcooked at thsoe places. A'll you have to do is the opposite of your turkey brilliance. Turkey tends to be dry - so your brining and injecting are perfect solutions. Duck tends to be oily, so you don't brine, you cook long and low, to let the fat render, or you can even simmer it gently for 15 minutes to do the same, then dry it thoroughly, prick the skin all over with a folk and roast to crisp the skin.

LOL - I had to evade the filter to post "prick". LOLOL.

Hahaha! male organ the skin.

Ever cook a goose? Talk about oily!
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:31 PM

Hahaha! male organ the skin. Ever cook a goose? Talk about oily!

Every year - and no kidding - but if you cook it right to render most of the fat, that last remaining bit makes it DELICIOUS, and the skin so crispy it shatters.

Mouth is watering again. Dammit.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 03:21 PM

My god, you're making my mouth water. That sounds incredible, and I'm stealing that idea for my Christmas goose.

If you want REALLY good turkey, deep fry it. It's a bit dangerous, if you are careless, but is awesome. I smoked ours last year.

I always tell people just to fry it in parts. More control over the white/dark and fewer massive explosions.

The one thing people forget when they deep fry their turkeys is to measure out how much oil they will need, using water and the turkey. You need to find the displacement that they turkey is going to cause. The most common, and DANGEROUS, mistake is to fill the fryer with oil, heat it, then drop the turkey in, and watch you and everything around you catch fire as the turkey displaces large amounts of oil over the burner.
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 03:29 PM

The one thing people forget when they deep fry their turkeys is to measure out how much oil they will need, using water and the turkey. You need to find the displacement that they turkey is going to cause. The most common, and DANGEROUS, mistake is to fill the fryer with oil, heat it, then drop the turkey in, and watch you and everything around you catch fire as the turkey displaces large amounts of oil over the burner.

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